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Multilingual Demographic Dictionary, second unified edition, English volume

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::: No remark from Stan Becker, it is double checked.--[[User:Nicolas Brouard|Nicolas Brouard]] 12:39, 26 November 2016 (CET)
 
::: No remark from Stan Becker, it is double checked.--[[User:Nicolas Brouard|Nicolas Brouard]] 12:39, 26 November 2016 (CET)
  
== 103-3 (double checked)==
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* {{translated French term|10|103|103-3|FrenchTextTerm=phénomènes perturbateurs}}
 
* {{translated French term|10|103|103-3|FrenchTextTerm=phénomènes perturbateurs}}
 
:The trilingual demographic dictionary English - French - Arabic of 1988 uses '''disturbing phenomenon'''*. --[[User:Nicolas Brouard|Nicolas Brouard]] 13:19, 6 August 2012 (CEST)
 
:The trilingual demographic dictionary English - French - Arabic of 1988 uses '''disturbing phenomenon'''*. --[[User:Nicolas Brouard|Nicolas Brouard]] 13:19, 6 August 2012 (CEST)
 
:and isolates the effects of each demographic variable from the others that are named, in that case, {{NewTextTerm|disturbing phenomena|3|103|IndexEntry=disturbing phenomenon}}. ''(to be revised)'' --[[User:Nicolas Brouard|Nicolas Brouard]] 13:41, 6 August 2012 (CEST)
 
:and isolates the effects of each demographic variable from the others that are named, in that case, {{NewTextTerm|disturbing phenomena|3|103|IndexEntry=disturbing phenomenon}}. ''(to be revised)'' --[[User:Nicolas Brouard|Nicolas Brouard]] 13:41, 6 August 2012 (CEST)
 
:: no remark: double checked.--[[User:Nicolas Brouard|Nicolas Brouard]] 12:53, 26 November 2016 (CET)
 
:: no remark: double checked.--[[User:Nicolas Brouard|Nicolas Brouard]] 12:53, 26 November 2016 (CET)
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: I don't think the term disturbing phenomena is used much in demography. I think it is the a translation of the French terminology "phenomenes perturbateurs" which is used for instance in associated-single decrement life tables. I thus suggest to use "competing processes", but also to break up the sentence in 2 parts to clarify that it doesn't refer to compositional effects--[[User:Patrick HEUVELINE|Patrick HEUVELINE]] ([[User talk:Patrick HEUVELINE|talk]]) 10:25, 6 July 2017 (CEST)
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== 103-4 (double checked)==
 
== 103-4 (double checked)==
 
* 103-4 note. ''Cohort analysis is a form of longitudinal analysis which deals with aggregates of persons possessing the same characteristic'': No, it has to be persons who experience the same event in a given time period. Men share a y chromosome but that does not make a cohort! --[[User:Stan BECKER|Stan BECKER]] 17:35, 24 September 2014 (CEST)
 
* 103-4 note. ''Cohort analysis is a form of longitudinal analysis which deals with aggregates of persons possessing the same characteristic'': No, it has to be persons who experience the same event in a given time period. Men share a y chromosome but that does not make a cohort! --[[User:Stan BECKER|Stan BECKER]] 17:35, 24 September 2014 (CEST)

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101-1 note 4 (Double checked)

adjectivally, I didn't know that this was a word.--Stan BECKER 17:23, 24 September 2014 (CEST)

kept unchanged. --Cristina Giudici (talk) 11:28, 12 December 2016 (CET)

101-8 (Double checked)

It is the core of population sciences 8★ in the broader sense to which belong interdisciplinary fields such as economic demography (104-1), social demography (104-2), population genetics (104-4), historical demography (102-1), mathematical demography (102-6) as well as contributions from the law, medicine, epidemiology (423-6), sociology, psychology, geography and philosophy.(to be revised) --Nicolas Brouard 10:18, 6 August 2012 (CEST)
  • In the core of the population sciences. Double checked --Herbert SMITH 17:19, 30 November 2012 (CET)

102-5 (double checked)

  • 102-5 When I learned the distinction from Phil Hauser and Don Bogue at U Chicago, it was that demographic analysis treats the relationships between the demographic variables themselves (e.g. stationary and stable pop) while pop studies treats the relationship between demographic variables and socio-economic, cultural, etc. variables.
It does not seem right to call the first 'pure' as if the second is 'impure' in any sense.--Stan BECKER 17:26, 24 September 2014 (CEST)
You are right, it came from the 1st French and English editions, Van de Walle did not suppress the term. Please suppress it yourself or we will keep it.(checked) --Nicolas Brouard 12:32, 26 November 2016 (CET)
I agree, the expression could be suppressed in the third edition. (double checked)--Cristina Giudici (talk) 11:18, 12 December 2016 (CET)

102-6 (double checked)

  • 102-6 and 102-9 And demo transition is a theory but not theoretical demography which is problematic. Do you want me to get the quote from Hauser's book or wherever? OK, now I see you have this distinction (formal demo vs. pop studies) later in the para. Can we equate formal demo and demo analysis then?--Stan BECKER 17:31, 24 September 2014 (CEST)
§ 103 starts with: Demographic analysis is that branch of formal demography which controls for the effect of population size and structure... . It is enough for me. (checked)--Nicolas Brouard 12:37, 26 November 2016 (CET)
I agree (double checked)--Cristina Giudici (talk) 11:13, 12 December 2016 (CET)

102-8 (double checked)

This study can focus on the current demographic situation 8★ or current demographic conditions 8★, ie the population change and its indicators during a short and recent period. (to be revised) --Nicolas Brouard 13:00, 6 August 2012 (CEST)
The trilingual demographic dictionary English - French - Arabic of 1988 uses demographic situation*.--Nicolas Brouard 12:14, 6 August 2012 (CEST)
This study can focus on the current demographic situation 8★ or current demographic conditions 8★, ie. population change and its indicators during a short and recent period. --Mary Ellen ZUPPAN 08:40, 17 August 2012
No remark from Stan Becker, it is double checked.--Nicolas Brouard 12:39, 26 November 2016 (CET)

103-3

The trilingual demographic dictionary English - French - Arabic of 1988 uses disturbing phenomenon*. --Nicolas Brouard 13:19, 6 August 2012 (CEST)
and isolates the effects of each demographic variable from the others that are named, in that case, disturbing phenomena 3★. (to be revised) --Nicolas Brouard 13:41, 6 August 2012 (CEST)
no remark: double checked.--Nicolas Brouard 12:53, 26 November 2016 (CET)
I don't think the term disturbing phenomena is used much in demography. I think it is the a translation of the French terminology "phenomenes perturbateurs" which is used for instance in associated-single decrement life tables. I thus suggest to use "competing processes", but also to break up the sentence in 2 parts to clarify that it doesn't refer to compositional effects--Patrick HEUVELINE (talk) 10:25, 6 July 2017 (CEST)

103-4 (double checked)

  • 103-4 note. Cohort analysis is a form of longitudinal analysis which deals with aggregates of persons possessing the same characteristic: No, it has to be persons who experience the same event in a given time period. Men share a y chromosome but that does not make a cohort! --Stan BECKER 17:35, 24 September 2014 (CEST)
Note on Cohort analysis suppressed, note on Panel analysis kept. (checked)--Nicolas Brouard 12:48, 26 November 2016 (CET)
I agree (double checked)--Cristina Giudici (talk) 11:20, 12 December 2016 (CET)

104-7-8 (double checked)

Fields of research and methodology are even more intertwined in the case of demography and human geography 7★. It is also the case for biometry 6 or biometrics 6 and epidemiology 8★ which deal with the application of statistical methods to all forms of biological and medical research. (to be revised)--Nicolas Brouard 14:10, 6 August 2012 (CEST)
no comment from Stan Becker: double checked.--Nicolas Brouard 12:49, 26 November 2016 (CET)