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Multilingual Demographic Dictionary, second unified edition, English volume

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Multilingual Demographic Dictionary, second unified edition, English vol.
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:They include the a <b>status animarum </b><sup>6</sup>which are nominal lists of all parishioners, <b>lists of communicants </b><sup>7 </sup>and <b>confirmation lists </b><sup>8</sup>, as well as administrative and fiscal documents such as <b>hearth tax lists</b> <sup>9</sup>, <b>taxation rolls </b><sup>10</sup> and <b>military conscription lists </b><sup>11</sup>.--[[User:Nicolas Brouard|Nicolas Brouard]] 14:29, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 
:They include the a <b>status animarum </b><sup>6</sup>which are nominal lists of all parishioners, <b>lists of communicants </b><sup>7 </sup>and <b>confirmation lists </b><sup>8</sup>, as well as administrative and fiscal documents such as <b>hearth tax lists</b> <sup>9</sup>, <b>taxation rolls </b><sup>10</sup> and <b>military conscription lists </b><sup>11</sup>.--[[User:Nicolas Brouard|Nicolas Brouard]] 14:29, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
  
*{{missing French term|21|215|215-9|FrenchTextTerm=relevés anonymes}}
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*{{translated French term|21|215|215-9|FrenchTextTerm=relevés anonymes}}
 
: and 10. They have been suppressed from the English edition. Louis Henry defined names for the transcription of summary: des <b>relevés anonymes </b><sup>9</sup> ou des <b>relevés nominatifs </b><sup>10</sup><b> </b>, plus succincts, but these are not crucial terminology (I think).--[[User:Nicolas Brouard|Nicolas Brouard]] 14:29, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 
: and 10. They have been suppressed from the English edition. Louis Henry defined names for the transcription of summary: des <b>relevés anonymes </b><sup>9</sup> ou des <b>relevés nominatifs </b><sup>10</sup><b> </b>, plus succincts, but these are not crucial terminology (I think).--[[User:Nicolas Brouard|Nicolas Brouard]] 14:29, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 
:* The Trilingual Demographic Dictionary Arabic-English-French of 1988 uses '''nominal roll*''' (215-10) and '''anonymous statement (215-9).--[[User:Nicolas Brouard|Nicolas Brouard]] 19:48, 11 June 2012 (CEST)
 
:* The Trilingual Demographic Dictionary Arabic-English-French of 1988 uses '''nominal roll*''' (215-10) and '''anonymous statement (215-9).--[[User:Nicolas Brouard|Nicolas Brouard]] 19:48, 11 June 2012 (CEST)
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::Other {{NewTextTerm|anonymous statements|9|215IndexEntry=anonymous statement}}, {{NewTextTerm|nominal rolls|10|215|IndexEntry=nominal roll}} and {{TextTerm|transcription forms|11|215|IndexEntry=transcription form|OtherIndexEntry=form, transcription}} are also used for summary extraction of the data, either with or without the names of the subjects.--[[User:Nicolas Brouard|Nicolas Brouard]] 10:07, 2 July 2013 (CEST)
  
 
* [[en-ii:22#226|226]] 8 was 8 and 9 in French. Very confusing for other languages. Now second 8 is renumbered 9 and following 10 too: ...which has the task of efficiently managing the available <b>facilities </b><sup>8</sup> for the <i>users </i>([[en-ii:22#225|225-5]]) running the <b>users’ programs <sup>9</sup> </b>and the <b>processing programs </b><sup>10</sup> which are preestablished <i>programs </i>([[en-ii:22#225|225-8]]) designed for the solution of standard problems.--[[User:Nicolas Brouard|Nicolas Brouard]] 14:29, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 
* [[en-ii:22#226|226]] 8 was 8 and 9 in French. Very confusing for other languages. Now second 8 is renumbered 9 and following 10 too: ...which has the task of efficiently managing the available <b>facilities </b><sup>8</sup> for the <i>users </i>([[en-ii:22#225|225-5]]) running the <b>users’ programs <sup>9</sup> </b>and the <b>processing programs </b><sup>10</sup> which are preestablished <i>programs </i>([[en-ii:22#225|225-8]]) designed for the solution of standard problems.--[[User:Nicolas Brouard|Nicolas Brouard]] 14:29, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

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  • 210-5|FrenchTextTerm=secteur de dépouillement
The following sentence has not been translated (or misunderstood: it concerns statistical analyses): "En prévision d’analyses spéciales - notamment d’analyses par quartiers (306-7) - ou de futurs sondages (160-1), le territoire des grandes villes est parfois réparti en secteurs de dépouillement 5 (cf. 220-1), pour lesquels des tableaux statistiques particuliers sont établis; dans ce cas, les secteurs de dépouillement sont formés d’un ou plusieurs districts de recensement."--Nicolas Brouard 14:29, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
  • Sorry, this was not meaningful.--Nicolas Brouard 10:12, 26 April 2012 (CEST)


chrisoms is a single term for the early baptism and the dead child. L. Henry distinguished two terms: pour les enfants ondoyés 4 à la maison et morts avant le baptême, on n’a qu’un acte de sépulture; on appelle ces enfants des ondoyés décédés 5.--Nicolas Brouard 14:29, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
  • The Trilingual Demographic Dictionary Arabic-English-French of 1988 uses baptized privately.--Nicolas Brouard 19:51, 11 June 2012 (CEST)
For chrisoms 5, privately baptized infants 4★ who die at home prior to a formal church ceremony, only the burial record is available. Nominal lists contain information either on a portion of the population or more rarely on the whole population. --Nicolas Brouard 09:42, 2 July 2013 (CEST)
  • Error in the numerotation. Original text was:
They include the a status animarum 7which are nominal lists of all parishioners, lists of communicants 8 and confirmation lists 9, as well as administrative and fiscal documents such as hearth tax lists 10, taxation rolls 11 and military conscription lists 11.
And in comparison with the French:
on trouve ainsi : les états des âmes 6 ou status animarum 6, listes nominatives de tous les paroissiens, les listes de communiants 7, les listes de confirmation 8, puis, dans le domaine administratif ou fiscal, les listes de feux 9, les rôles d’imposition 10 et, dans le domaine militaire, les listes de conscription 11.
And thus I modified the English numerotation (as well as for other English dependent languages (please check my changes Russian, Chinese, Japanese etc.) to:
They include the a status animarum 6which are nominal lists of all parishioners, lists of communicants 7 and confirmation lists 8, as well as administrative and fiscal documents such as hearth tax lists 9, taxation rolls 10 and military conscription lists 11.--Nicolas Brouard 14:29, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
and 10. They have been suppressed from the English edition. Louis Henry defined names for the transcription of summary: des relevés anonymes 9 ou des relevés nominatifs 10 , plus succincts, but these are not crucial terminology (I think).--Nicolas Brouard 14:29, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
  • The Trilingual Demographic Dictionary Arabic-English-French of 1988 uses nominal roll* (215-10) and anonymous statement (215-9).--Nicolas Brouard 19:48, 11 June 2012 (CEST)
Other anonymous statements 9★, nominal rolls 10★ and transcription forms 11 are also used for summary extraction of the data, either with or without the names of the subjects.--Nicolas Brouard 10:07, 2 July 2013 (CEST)
  • 226 8 was 8 and 9 in French. Very confusing for other languages. Now second 8 is renumbered 9 and following 10 too: ...which has the task of efficiently managing the available facilities 8 for the users (225-5) running the users’ programs 9 and the processing programs 10 which are preestablished programs (225-8) designed for the solution of standard problems.--Nicolas Brouard 14:29, 29 December 2009 (UTC)